If you add bamboo the the tip of the rod, you have changed its mass (MOI/MOE) relative to what it was. As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. (Greg Reeves), Something ain't quite right there. the all-around trout rod out here in the Western US. My question is, as I plan for my next rod, are these the same rod or is there a difference? Maybe it is the version of the taper they are making, there are several out there. We will see how it turns out. "And look at the difference in the prices they go for!" that is less the difference of the step. Fly Fishing Supplies & Gear. This is because the laws of physics don't tend to change much. (Jay Hake), Apparently Dickerson didn't think so. Some people call them "step-down" but it is worth noting that the top and the bottom openings of his ferrules are usually the same diameter; the "step" across the ferrule occurred in the bamboo, not the metal. 70 0.261 133729 Browse our collection of vintage fly boxes and wallets. Most of the ones I have made and sold are the PHY Perfectionist taper. Not that I very much care, these people have a perfect right to their willful ignorance. Anyway, far too few people concern themselves over what should be the staple obsession of every rodmaker-design. Sold Out $4,050.00 Description Particulars For your consideration is a Lyle Dickerson model 8013 bamboo fly rod made in 1948. (Inches) (Inches) Stress Are there specific numbers at the ferrule for, say, an 8013 where a 14/64's ferrule is used? To vary the straight line you can adjust the tip dimension. I deducted .005 for the varnish. If you 'hide' columns you can then compare and easily see differences in any combination of selected rod tapers. We're committed to providing a safe, comfortable environment for our travelers. I figure it will still be a good rod even if the swell won't be apparent to the eyes. It was considerably more effortless to use than my colleagues 8'6'' to 9' supposedly #4 carbons. What physical characteristics make a taper roll cast well. The second you deviate from a straight line, no matter how you want to describe it, the fact that there was a straight line is irrelevant. 3 months after I had the guy back on the phone asking me to make another one as its the best rod he has ever had. If you want the rod to have the same characteristics as before the change, the you must add some cane to the mid/butt of the rod to maintain the balance that was there before. I like Dickerson's fast action, but I have not had a chance to try every rod Jim Payne made. (Bob Norwood). But all right is not a euphemism for excellent. If so, which would work best as an all-around rod for lakes/ponds and steelhead/salmon? 2023 Spinoza Rod Company. 45 .212 under reel seat, The numbers listed below are from Banjos' rod, 0 .084 .238 Why do you think a7'6" rod is short for a #5 ? I hope this helps you out some, they are actually all nice rods, but as I said there is a little different in line sizes. There are no great tapers and nobody invented anything. The Garrison tip would be .078, B-9 tip would be .059, and a fast .018/5" drop a tip of .035. Neither of the Powell's on Hexrod are straight taper, I have no Winston tapers handy. 60 0.231 142296 How would you characterize their casting characteristics? Varnish of 0.004 subtracted. I think the perfectionist is a fine taper and rod. 8ft #5wt. (Jerry Foster). 10 .110 .254 (Will Price), Dickerson standardized his reel seats with a 3/8's inside diameter bore, hence the .375 under the grip and reel seat. I love the 7612 Taper. Following tests I no longer cook UHU. A taper is a fishing rod term that defines the rod length, optimal line weight, and rod flex action. CSE made the ferrule for me. 6 wt 0.0752 Dickerson 8015 Guide Model Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #6/7, Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/3 #6, Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Fly Rod 8' 2/2 #5/6, Dickerson 761510 RB (Ray Bergman) Fly Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8013 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711-D Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 901812-C Bamboo Rod 9' 3/2 #7, Lyle Dickerson Model 6611 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 2/2 #3/4, Lyle Dickerson Model 7613 Hollow Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4/5, Lyle Dickerson Model 661510 Bamboo Rod 6'6" 3/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 8014 Guide Bamboo Rod 8' 2/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801510 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 7612 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 2/2 #4, Lyle Dickerson Model 761510 Bamboo Rod 7'6" 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 9016 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/3, Lyle Dickerson Model 9015 Bamboo Rod 9' 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 7012 Bamboo Rod 7' 2/2, Lyle Dickerson Model 861711 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 3/2 #6, Lyle Dickerson Model 801610 Bamboo Rod 8' 3/2 #5, Lyle Dickerson Model 8615 Special Bamboo Rod 8'6" 2/2 #5/6, Lyle Dickerson Model 961913 Bamboo Rod 9'6" 3/2 #7. (Will Price), I have noticed several folks mention the Dickerson 8014. Stress curves are an integral part of this process and have to be evaluated. I have been gobs smacked many times when the customer turns around and says I like this one. (Bob Norwood). (Chris Obuchowski), Hexrods library seems to suggest otherwise. (Gary Nicholson), I think most rodmakers wouldn't build a rod to sell that they didn't like, but would make one for a customer that they wouldn't use themselves, I know I have. Since it was a know Dickerson Taper and not a myth I set out to recreate how I think Lyle would of done it and it came out sweet. But if you really like Dickerson tapers (i sure do) then getting a good maker to whip up his version of that taper while using his personal cosmetics would be my first choice. I have looked on the Rodmakers site under tapers and it is not listed. One of my favorite rods is a linear taper with a "slope" of .290/100". Dickerson Rods For Sale I will suggest that rodmakers as a whole are not (especially the "classics" who were trying to make a living by banging out rods), but also that minor variances of a few thousandths occurring at random do not have a large impact on the rod actions as a whole. The trouble is, that's all it does! In terms of rod design I think that it is really worthwhile considering as many design approaches as possible when trying to design and assess tapers. by Morten 06/12/16 08:37, Post It's the important half, too, the other one is less important than line weight, I refer you to the basic laws of aerodynamics, this post is already too long! This will be three tips (light, heavy and SLT), three butts (light, heavy, SLT), a parabolic and a hinge. The hatch did not materialize and the fish did not rise, which gave me time to think of such things. 90 0.296 157251. One from the 1950s, one from the 1970s, and Russ Gooding's Golden Witch version. Can do a little better some days, but not always. Over the time I have made rods. The '51 is a bit softer. (Mark Wendt), I am wanting to build a Dickerson 7012 but cant find a taper that accounts for the step downs. All Rights Reserved. I've also made an 8-1/2' with tip dimension of .072, which made a really nice 6/7 weight. The slope of the taper of this rod is .014/5" or a B-8.4 (taking the average drop from 80" thru 0"). 10 .112 .262 As to my question about the ferrules is, your rods say, e.g. Is there a classic taper that roll casts better any others? I am sure there are situations where a bit more length would be helpful, but who am I to argue with Mr. Dickerson? Dickerson 8615 - 8.5ft 2pc 7wt Posted by Gary Lohkamp,15 Jan 1997. 0.369 (Al Baldauski). : This is a 5 wt line SLT. 0.369 (Tim Pembroke), I wasn't aware of that but now that I've been told it does make perfect sense. Good question and I will tell you as soon as I finish my 5wt SLT. If you want to adjust for a different varnish assumption, or if you want to interpolate differently, then our actual measurements are there for you (or anyone, of course) to do so. Station Diameter 0.206 Howell says "they are just different" in his book, but I am looking for something bit more specific. (Gary Nicholson), So out of great curiosity then - how would you describe to me (someone who doesn't have a clue) how the action would feel or perform with regard to a "Straight Taper Rod" comparatively speaking. I don't particularly like the idea of an "exact" clone, it takes away from the makers personal touch IMHO and never will be the real deal. I get tired of hearing that kind of comment. I fail to see anything in the manor of specifications for your making a point that you feel there is a difference between the two, in fact I would like to show you that they are, under the right conditions, EXACTLY THE SAME. Reducing material in the butt section will make the butt more limber and allow flex deeper into the butt. Take a Garrison. It's really funny that a True Arc turns out to be a parabolic taper (how drunk were those guys?). $239.00 + $24.95 shipping (2) Vintage HEDDON PAL Casting Rods - #6277 Wormer 5'6"+ #6273 Musky Special 5' . If you would like to give Michigan a try, let me know. As this was my favorite rod, much foul language followed. Get information on services and amenities, security protocols, health and safety measures, and more. You can vary the slope to get the "speed" you want (Garrison's are .013/5"; a B-9 .015/5"; and I've built them as fast as .018/5"). This in itself is a very interesting exercise. Over the last few days there has been a long thread about rods breaking at the female ferrule. Please allow up to 120 days for completion of your new rod. 0.138 0.288 The two different numbers are for the tip and the butt of the rod. (Robin Haywood), Why don't you design some roll casting ability into every rod? 0.278 Consider this one if your maker plans on using Super Z ferrules. 0.178 OK, the rod was a Paul Young Perfectionist. Lyle Dickerson Spurred into rodmaking by losing his job in the great depression, Lyle Dickerson would go on to become one of the masters of the craft. Just basic principles that have been around for years. 40 .200 under grip You simply have to then adjust the rate of change of the taper - the rise. The only limit you have in this process, you can't change the tip diameter because you would be changing the line weight of the rod. This system could also be very helpful to understand why a classic taper feels the way it feels. Consider one or the other of these two if your rod maker intends to fit the rod with step down ferrules, since there is a .010" step down across the ferrule stations. I can always build another and I'm sure I will. For example, the 8013 taper I use is .202 at the ferrule end of the tip, and .212 at the ferrule end of the butt. Dickerson Rods. There should be 20 measurements not 19. But if you decide to tell the world that this is therefore the right way to design a fishing rod then I'm going to disagree with you!" Very Good condition. More info. I would also like to know why a Dickerson 7613 taper imparts those characteristics. by dkrismer 06/12/16 20:36, Post Pezon/Michel. I have a tough time roll casting over about 65' with any rod, no matter how long or limber. $95.00 Is that the 1949 or the 1951 version? (Greg Reeves), TipsHome - What'sNew - Tips - Articles - Tutorials - Contraptions - Contributors - Search Site - ContactUs - TaperArchives by softstick 05/09/09 04:36, Post Common sense tells me to leave the middle of the taper . As long as a maker includes the correct ferrule drop, Dickerson tapers are no more difficult to make than most others. I haven't tried a WF6 but suspect it'd be about perfect. November - May To this Robin brings up the complications created by the weight and placement of ferrules etc. 75 0.2855 Easy casting and very versatile. If you want to make overweight rods with unnecessarily heavy tips and relatively floppy butts then straight tapers will deliver. The rod action will not resemble a straight line taper any longer. I really must stir myself to come and fish them, it's time that's the enemy. 45 .216 .375 95 0.3435 (Tom Bowden). by Morten 05/26/17 03:35, Post the stated ferrule dimensions always follow from the TIP dimensions, not the butt dimensions. Looking at the 5" dimensions for the Dickerson 7613 (1970 taper), there is a big swell under the grip. (David Atchison), Wondered if anyone had the taper for the Dickerson 8012 laying around. I'm satisfied with my bamboo fly rod, even though the female metal Ferrule opening was a little big and the male ferrule on the second section would slip out after a few cast. Post Post well there is your answer. The 1970 Dickerson has the same type tip as the 1952 except it has a very shallow flex in the upper butt and a faster swell into the butt, a 4/5 wt, faster rod. It has a small flex area in the lower tip with a stronger butt sloping up toward the end with a good butt swell; fast rod. Dickerson R.W. Straight tapers are just that, nobody needs to develop them, as if they did they wouldn't be straight anymore. There are about 4 to 5 version of the 7013, I like the 1970 version the best. I just posted on the Rod Builders forum a 861711D Dickerson taper taken from a rod built in 1938 and restored by RW Summers in 2005. (Robin Haywood). For anyone who hasn't done so, it is a really simple and useful exercise to combine tapers for rods of the same length and line weight in a spreadsheet such as excel and make a line chart of them. Very similar to the 8013 action ( my favorite rod ) but in the 4w class, mission accomplished. Welcome to the Taper Archives; The data on this page reflects the work of generations of dedicated rodmakers. 50 0.213 Of course a SLT is never a SLT unless it's a one piece no Varnish & Guides rod, once we add things we change the effective taper. I Have commented additionally, if trivially in a private post on the other points. But nobody has a right to ask me to share it. Listed as 7 wt but that seems kinda heavy? (There is a table of blue numbers for each rod section). 20 .143 .292 0.111 It does handle a 7 very well too. 1 wt 0.0540 It could very well be that you could order just as fast a Payne. 4070 Main Street, Nice taper but you may feel the large flex area on long casts with a 8 WF line. They are very nice 5 weights ( IMHO it is THE 8 5 wt). There are some differences between their tapers and line sizes, however they are all somewhat medium fast. Still own the other and it has a DT6 on it. The Dickerson step down ferrule concept I need to know. Narrow steam but very exposed and windy thus needing a #5 line? 15 .128 .278 Some rods, I think, have a regional quality to them, too, and just holding them gives one a kind of flavor of a particular time and place. That's not a lot to ask is it? According to Hoagy Carmichael Jr. who filmed a documentary for Boston Public TV, the Payne Rod Co. made approximately 12,000 rods during it's existence. Solid construction of suitable solidity involved unattractive weight penalties. The mid sections are very different. Mystic Outdoors is the premier manufacturer of high-performance fly fishing equipment for new anglers and seasoned veterans alike. 2 piece. (Reed Guice), Dickerson used the ferrule sizes in the rod to denote both the ferrule and the number of pieces in the rod. The Dickerson 7612 taper a smooth medium action 4 wt that is 7 1/2 long in a 2pc. The guy turns out to be a top casting instructor. If it's starting at the cork, somebody got their dimensions messed up. CANE RODS Tips & Tapers by Ray Gould has another version that averages out the step down. It's why I'm fussy about ring weight on the tips of rods below #6. Lyle Dickerson (1892-1981) has long been known as a pioneer in rodbuilding, due partly to his use of machinery in production but primarily appreciated by fishermen for many of his fast and accurate taper designs. (John Silveira). You can design a flyrod, racing bicycle, airplane or motorcar to do one thing superbly with ease. The biggest discrepancies are around the ferrules, and you'll notice in many "classic tapers" flattening of the slope into and out of the ferrules - presumably to make fitting a tapered peg into a cylindrical hole easier. 5 0.0825 (Steve Weiss), That's the rub isn't it? The most interesting rods have a distinctive type of action, and a particular form and design, which is distinctive, and which seems to express a particular maker's vision. I would be very interested in hearing what you have to say about the differences between the two tapers. by trouttrapper 06/12/16 09:32, Post Cynically, but I may not have entirely given up, yet. by ShenRods 05/08/09 01:54, Post If you like I can send you a compensated SLT and you will see what I mean. The trouble is, really, that I know there are people out there who really do understand taper design, it's getting them to talk to us about it thats the problem. I have made about 6 for auctions and as favors and all have been very well received and enjoyed. Only trouble with the rod is that there aren't many places in Md. For any thing else but roll casting or keeping a very finite weight of DT in the air, it's useless. 0.078 You are correct, this is just a way of evaluating the effects of adding or subtracting material from different areas along a rods length. (John Channer), Well, the #13 Payne ferrules that I've mic'd had a female ferrule internal diameter of .203" and the step-down internal diameter of .1875". I do not rule out the possibility of owning a Lyle Dickerson rod one day but, may I ask, if you own or were having a rod made today with a Dickerson taper, If you want a Dickerson - John Pickard is your best choice. It throws up some very interesting facts. So the question - I have been trying to define the specific characteristic that each basic deviation from the SLT imparts to the action of the rod. I think I originally posted this taper as Russ personally sent it to me. The varnish is in good condition. Jim P. you have some great choices there. Just for once I'm going to recommend a step down ferrule! "God made dogs to steal our hearts and they do.". Standard Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1099 Custom Tapers Two-piece with two tips, bag and aluminum tube Price : $1199 - $1399 A Lyle Dickerson model 8014 bamboo fly rod, 8', 2-piece, 3-tip, and built for a #6 line. 7613: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. At the Grayling gathering, Bill Harms gave a presentation of Marinaro's approach to rod design. Dickerson was a self-taught rodmaker who designed his own rod-milling and planing equipment. 35 .186 .326 The idea is that the butt must not bend, and when it does its only at the very end, if it bends further down then the height of the line above the ground is dramatically reduced and thus fully one half of the "High speed high line" proposition is not met. As we all know, rods can often cast line weights one up and down from their designated ones. Even if you take off 0.006 for varnish, in case that wasnt done, its still a 7 1/2 wt. (Todd Talsma), I had rather hoped that I might finesse out of someone just what these specific requirements might be. However, a straight line taper will create a rod in which the angle of deflection will increase from the butt to the tip at linear (constant)rate. 50 0.203 148510 (Harry Boyd). (If memory serves me right Tony Young sells step down ferrules for Dickerson rods, so you may try that. His total production was fewer than 1,000 rods. Casting range allows for some delicacy up close and personal, to the times that you want to reach out and touch someone a bit further away. 90 0.329 (Will Price), You can adapt the taper that calls for a step down by putting a slight swell at the male ferrule end of the taper so that a super Z or super Swiss ferrule will work properly. . (Lew) Parks. And this set of conditions is very narrow. Powered by Shopify. You may think you are being rude about "Classic" production methods, but they're probably better than mine. (Jerry Foster), Where do you get that? Since the time he was with the Deschutes Rod Co. in Seattle he has built rods with Dickerson tapers. This butt can be a foot shorter than the tip and of straight taper. 0.241 (Henry Mitchell), Yes but those 2 particular tapers are what many Dickerson aficionados refer to as the 7613 Guide and are much more comfortable with a 6 wt line than a 5 wt. .212 is way too big for a 13/64, it's well into the 14/64 fit range. Hi Guys, Also, some of those Heddons would have had pins through the tab area causing, in my view, problems. Tuesday - Sunday, 10am to 4pm, Winter I would say it's a strong 7 wt, but it should work well with a 8 WF. The American Museum of Fly Fishing Collection Gift of . Can someone explain what this means and what number should I use. Start out by choosing your fly rod, and follow it up with a visit to our collection of fly reels. (Bret Reiter), I call this one a seven too. (four piece) carbon fiber fly rod blank $85.00 13' 7/8wt. An 8014, would be an 8' two piece, with a size 14 ferrule amidships. I can add that there is not one single straight line taper for each line weight. Yes. In reading my post the tone seems a little harsh. (Paul Blakley), I have a taper for the Dickerson 7613 and am a little confused. BTW, Paul, different strokes for different folks. But all you have done is show the straight line taper for between two dimensions. (Reed Guice). Springcreek, the 8013 you have listed. ever wonder why all those 10 1/2/64 Heddons broke at the female ferrule? Bill said that the book he has written on the subject is going to the printers and should be out soon.. (No financial interest.) Suggest that you subtract .006 for varnish. like .03%/inch. (Chris Obuchowski). I beef up the last 3 inches of the tip to fit the 14/64 male ferrule. The long column to the right of that is what we think the raw cane would have measured, subtracting for varnish, and interpolating between our measurements so as to put everything back on 5-inch stations. 0.160 For that matter, how big does the swell actually have to be to stop the action of the rod? Parabolic is a marketing term and thus entirely meaningless in discussions on rod design. I made the Dickerson 7613 from the numbers in Jack Howells book. Dickerson 8015 Guide Special By Jim Schaaf, 2458 - 11. The same can be said for the EC Powell taper in Hexrod (the 7'6" 2pc 6wt in the archives) which IS A B-9 TAPER; just look at the average slope from stations from the 80" mark thru 0". As most of you already know Paul Young was notorious for having quite a few different tapers for the same model over the course of his career. 765: 7'6" 2/2 5 wt. Its a very useful exercise. Did I just read something about someone saying Dickerson rods are outclassed by today's makers? On a theoretical straight line or linear taper the rod would load progressively down to the handle. - Led Zeppelin, 10 Years Gone. Halstead. Summers Bamboo Fly Rods Company Vom Hofe Reels Young Winston Bob Summers has built and repaired quality bamboo fly rods since 1956. Find great quality fly fishing rods at an affordable price that fits any budget. $ 1950us w/two tips, DICKERSON 7012 - 7' 2/2 - 4wt- honey colored - medium action, wonderful 4wt$ 1950us w/two tips. I have also noticed the mention of a Dickerson 8014GS. I would agree that one system is not all encompassing and I agree with the selection of evaluating criteria you outlined. The 7012 HB is super light, and can cast with the best of them. 0.138 The line weight standards are simply points in what is really a continuous spectrum. 20 0.131 154180 My first few 8013's have 13/64 ferrules and one of them broke off INSIDE of the ferrule. Chris' rod is also an 861711D. I am assuming this is an unvarnished rod. Design notes: Dennis Higham's 861711 found in David Ray's taper archive is also designated a 'D' model. If you are building in the drop at the ferule that Dickerson used, you will usually end up using a size larger ferrule than you'd normally think. 0.232 All of which indicates to me that there is not one 'correct' straight line taper. The 8014 taper was devised later in Lyle's life and reflects both this ma (Robin Haywood). The best reason that I can give you as to why Dickersons are popular tapers (Along with another Michigan maker Paul Young) is that they are nice casting rods and fit our fishing very well. Even if EC did "compound" his B-9 taper just in front of the ferrule for a specific reason, it wouldn't negate the fact that this is AT HEART A STRAIGHT TAPER. Apparently, the 'old masters' were just building fishing rods and not too worried about picking the fly poop out of the pepper. The last tip measurement (that goes into the male ferrule) is .204. It also is fine on smaller streams. I repaired the rod with by putting on a custom ferrule. This rod has some meat in the butt section and seems to mend a fair bit of line with ease. The tip tapers are the only redeeming feature of his designs, and now you tell me they were not deliberate, I'll burn my copy of "The Book" immediately, at least I shall be spared tolerating toadying references to "Garry" when ever (very seldom, in fact) I refer to it! A true 13-14 step down. Must have been a real thrill to cast Banjos' rod. 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